Welcome to part two of #wineandwords. Enjoy it as much as I enjoyed finding this vintage leather jacket. TGIF.
Megan: Currently, does your future play a role in how you work, like are you working especially hard now, so you will have time for a family of your own one day? Do you all see that as a goal you are working towards, or is that something more in the distance?
Kristen: Personally, for me, it’s hard to relate because I’m 25, single, and living in the city. I’m not really thinking about the future, but teaching is unique in that I know this is my career and when I have a family I will be able to balance both.
Caroline: I just had my first evaluation and I didn’t think I would be so concerned with getting a raise or a promotion, but hearing my coworkers discuss it, and realizing where you can go, I think I was like “I want to move up and I want to move up fast.”
I want to have raises and promotions so that by the time I am 30 and I start having kids, I don’t have to stress about finding that balance. I definitely want to have something established before I get married and have kids; I don’t want to be distracted. So I agree with that.
Molly: That statement definitely resonates with me but I feel like that’s because in my brain I’ll always want my career to be a thing; career is definitely important to me.
I don’t ever foresee myself being a stay at home mom. I don’t think that’s right or wrong, I just think that’s how I’m wired. I definitely feel like I’m putting in the time for a reason. I want to move up, and I see lots of opportunities.
I had a meeting with the Vice President and he said a line to me that I don’t think he realized how much it drove me, but he said, “I didn’t hire you for the position you’re in now, I hired you for the next one.” That two-second sentence stuck with me and has been more of a driving force to do well because someone believes in me.
Megan: I’ve also read that Millennials are entitled; that we always believe we are over-qualified for what we’re doing. Whether it’s “we should either be getting higher salary”, or more recognition, whereas our parents come from the logic that work is supposed to be hard, because it’s work. As children of the social media age, you see fellow Millennials with these glamorous lives and you think “why can’t that be me?”. Do you identify with this way of thinking at all?
Molly: I’m embarrassed to admit the fact that this is so true. Today, I called a coworker on my way home and as I’m telling her all the “hard” parts of my day I’m like “she probably had a much crazier day than I did”. I’m like “Molly, shut up”. No one is going to come thank me for ordering a lunch for clients. So, yes, I think that is very true for Millennials, and I am guilty of that.
Megan: I recently read an article where a women described starting out as an admin and how she quit after nine months. Years later, when she hired another admin with that same work attitude she previously shared, she realized it’s not about “what can this company do for me, it’s what can I do for them”. She said that’s how you grow and succeed in the workplace, and that really stuck out to me.
Kristen: Yes, I can relate to that. I would do things at work, above my job duties, that I used to expect that I would get recognition for, but now I realize that doesn’t happen.
Caroline: I think we’re an extremely spoiled generation. But not financially, I think we are dealing with a lot more student loans, higher rent, and the pressure to move out of your parent’s house immediately.
But I think we are spoiled because we expect gratification, and in the workplace it’s recognized, but it’s not always spoken. You need to have enough confidence to know I need to go above my expectations, and it’s not going unnoticed, but no one is going to say thank you.
Whereas when our parents we were working, it was excitement over like “I can’t believe I have a 9-5 job with health insurance.”
Molly: Yes, and that generation is most of our higher-ups and that definitely creates a gap.
Megan: We were recently named “the Debt Generation”. Do you feel secure financially? How important is salary to you?
Kristen: I don’t have student loans, so it’s different for me. Maybe if I had loans, and car payments right now my salary would be more important, but I don’t, and I don’t necessarily feel like I need more right now. So no, I’m not stressed about my finances, and I’m also not a spender at all, and very OCD with my money.
Megan: I just had a discussion with my mom about this. I said I would rather have traveled all over the world than have savings right now, but that’s a personal preference. How do you guys feel about that?
Caroline: I’m also a rare case because I don’t have student loans, so that’s a burden I don’t feel that most of our generation does. I also had an amazing starting salary, which I think was just dumb luck. If I had started any lower than I did, I would feel more pressure with our rent, but I don’t so I’m just in a good spot right now.
But I am nervous looking into the future for events like a wedding or buying a car; putting a down payment on anything right now is just laughable. I don’t know when that’s going to change because I don’t see my lifestyle changing anytime soon. Right now I’m taking it day-by-day.
Kristen: But I do fear about the future when I’ll start having to deal with more bills, because I am someone who has worries and anxiety. I’ll think ahead and be like “f*ck,” when I have to buy a car shit’s going to hit the fan, because I don’t think rationally.
Molly: I’m in a situation where I feel like I can firmly say I probably have a higher salary than everyone in the room, but it doesn’t matter because I’m in the most student debt. On top of paying rent and other bills, I have no money.
But that’s also on me because like Megan, I would rather go on trips and have so much fun right now, than have money saved.
I don’t foresee my lifestyle changing in the near future, so am I worried about buying a house, and saving for my future? No, but I know I should get a handle on my finances, but I don’t see that happening for a couple more years.